JRBrown wrote:Mizushiro is #1 with a bullet. I don't have an issue with Cornered Mouse as a June title, although of course if it would have to be censored (which I don't think it would; it's not all that explicit) I'd rather have it as an 801 title.
sun22 wrote:Pages 81; 126-127; 190; 193 (volume 1) of Cornered Mouse series (French edition) feature fully visible (uncensored) full frontal nudity and other mature things - far beyond of what I've seen from June so far. I'd prefer 801-Media handle that title, and one of the reasons (in addition to explicit, very tastefully done sex scenes) is also the apparent demographics for this title being older women, not young girls. I cannot imagine that many late-teen girls (aka "wider distribution" that comes with June imprint) liking that series that much, but I can imagine many older yaoi fans REALLY falling for it, especially if artwork is kept true to the original.
JRBrown wrote:a) I don't think it's so different from what's come out from June. I'd have to go back and look at some of the June titles I have boxed...
- that's true, and that actually confirms my point. My original point is that June is more wildly distributed, and my impression (and it's my impression only, certainly not something I have any "hard facts" for) is that "wide distrbution" includes many readers in their teens. Given "wider distribution", books have to be censored, and I really don't see the point in going after "wider audience" - if this means censorship - if that 'wider audience" is not even prime demographics for this title. Those who read mature yaoi will find and greatly enjoy (and pay DMP money) for this Setona Mizushiro's title, even if it's more narrowly distributed. If this book gets censored, many of those same fans would "suffer", though of course now the book can be "wider distributed". It's the publisher's choice, and in case of this title, I believe I have a reason to be concerned, as I really care about this work, and want to buy it in English the way its original author intended it to be.JRBrown wrote: The other yaoi-reading women I know will buy what they like regardless of imprint, and not everyone disdains the lighter or less explicit romances
JRBrown wrote:The "wider distribution" of June refers to the greater bookstore presence of that imprint; there's always significantly increased sales from the ease of purchase, exposure and impulse buying that comes with having your book in a store as opposed to having to buy it online.
mo2468 wrote:I was recently pointed to an old Tokyopop forum thread (about their own censorship) where someone quoted that Dark Horse found a 40% decrease in sales when a title was shrinkwrapped and/or labeled as having mature content, because distributors and retailers were less likely to order the books and stock them.
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