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Re: Ayano Yamane's Finder series - under which imprint?

Postby sun22 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:30 am

I really wonder who you think this "wider audience" for Finder is, Wasabiman et al. All interested 18+ readers would buy Finder from 801 Media for sure anyway. Now, who'd be contributing to the "wider audience"? I think probably those who are mostly under 18. Or some random adult buyers I guess who'd buy a shrink-wrapped copy without realizing what it has. In either case, whether it's kids or "random buyers", not sure how "safe" this widespread distribution would be for the publisher, unless June does some serious censorship to the series.
If June doesn't censor anything in Finder series, I will surely buy 10 copies, as some gift ideas for my friends (all are mature enough to read and enjoy it, of course). This way I will support the absence of censorship and make good gifts. But with very high probability, this will never happen. But anyway, let's wait and see.
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Re: Ayano Yamane's Finder series - under which imprint?

Postby Ruby_Alexandrine » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:38 am

I'm still baffled as to why Viewfinder is going to be published by June. What is the point of having 801 Media? I know the imprint will publish UGH by Mika Sadahiro yet its not going to publish Viewfinder? I must admit that On Bended Knee, Weekend Lovers, and The Devil's Secret were more appropriate for the June Manga imprint than 801 Media.

Viewfinder is more appropriate for the 801 Media imprint especially since the first volume has a explicit BDSM scene. Nonetheless, I will purchase the new version of Viewfinder because I know it will be selling like hot cakes when it comes out. It sure beats buying all three for more than $200 at Ebay!
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Re: Ayano Yamane's Finder series - under which imprint?

Postby yaoi_pariah » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:10 am

Viewfinder is more appropriate for the 801 Media imprint especially since the first volume has a explicit BDSM scene.


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Re: Ayano Yamane's Finder series - under which imprint?

Postby mo2468 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:40 am

UGH is a much more niche title than Finder, though, so I have to assume that's what the decision came down to. UGH fits 801 Media better because it's probably only going to sell well with the people who followed it as scans (and also actually buy manga). Finder is going to be sought after by a lot more people. Maybe volume 1 doesn't get sold in stores whether they censor it or not, but there isn't that much in the series as a whole after that volume that would make it inappropriate for the June imprint. Now, whether they blur genitals and wipe out bodily fluids, who is to say? It's June standard operating procedure, but they're already releasing it in Japanese tankoban size, right? Maybe the license agreement included considerations about censorship as well.
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Re: Ayano Yamane's Finder series - under which imprint?

Postby ChibiKami » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:51 am

Hey everyone! Sorry, ChibiKami was on vacation this week. And just got in from a VERY long flight. With a cold.

ANYWAYS-yes, Finder will be on June.(That's what the PR says!) If you want to know what the book will look like-well, you'll just have to pick it up and see. It's not very nice that some of you are making inflamed comments when the book isn't out yet. We have a very specific strategy with this book in mind-and we're going to give it our love.

sun22-though we appreciate your comments, I am going to warn you about making suppositions about what imprint does what, and how well each imprint does, especially since you don't actually know. Please refrain from inflaming people about a censored version of Finder, especially since the book isn't out yet. When the book comes out-THEN you can comment on it as much as you like. If you're against buying it without knowing, I'm sure others will let you know.
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Re: Ayano Yamane's Finder series - under which imprint?

Postby kinziechan » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:31 pm

I'm not trying to inflame anyone about anything, just posting my opinion. I found out this was going to be rereleased through the YA comm and while I am excited, I am not at the same time. I've been buying from June for years so I can see how much the quality has fallen. I dont want to see this with Viewfinder, as I own all 5 Japanese copies and love it. I was actually expecting Kitty to get the license as they have Crimson Spell and are doing a FANTASTIC job with it.

Anyway, I dont really see how you can censor VF without censoring the entire first chapter. It is very explicit. The entire series is. And while censorship appeals to a younger audience, I dont buy for that. I buy because Yaoi is a form of porn I can get without feeling like a complete pervert. Stories another thing entirely.
Errrr I ramble, sorry, but the point is, if June can assure the public that the quality will go back to what it was and the book will remain in its original format with nothing missing and nothing added (dialogue) then I think we can all be happy.
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Re: Ayano Yamane's Finder series - under which imprint?

Postby Ruby_Alexandrine » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:32 pm

I was confused about the series being under June yet since June has a specific strategy for Viewfinder, then its fine by me at least. I'm simply glad that I don't have to wait any more to see one of my favorite series in English. Since the mod have already stated that June will give its love to the series, then I have nothing more to say until I actually have the book in my hands. :D
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Re: Ayano Yamane's Finder series - under which imprint?

Postby sun22 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:57 pm

ChibiKami -
I'm not sure why you think you can single me out and warn me about anything of that kind. I'm not spamming, and I'm telling my honest opinion on what I think I will do and what others who like hardcore uncensored yaoi as much as I like it should do. I bought pretty much all of your titles, under all BL imprints and have been your fan and supporter for a while. The whole "inflammation" is your point of view, I'm just disappointed in your choice of the imprint for this title, and that's my right to be. If you're fine with a number of underage fans chatting on your forum about your fairly explicit 18+ titles, that's fine by me, but don't single out an actual adult, with an adult opinion who wants an adult execution of an adult title. My voice deserves to be heard, and there's no "inflammation" there - not everyone is going to weep in joy with every single decision you make.

You're refusing to tell us re: any title you're publishing re: whether it's censored or not, including this one, though on this one you're actually hinting about some special plan you have for it. Well, your optimistic fans are glad to hear that, but I'm more of a pessimist when it comes to June's implementation of adult titles at this point. You're relying on "others" to disclose the "edits" (if there are any) for you. Well, thanks to other fans who promised to post on this title in particular, that's much appreciated.

Re: "suppositions about what imprint does what, and how well each imprint does, especially since you don't actually know" - all my suppositions are solely what I understood you said re: 801 media vs June, in particular June being more wider distributed than 801 Media, and some of the more explicit titles needing censorship because of distribution issues. YOU said that, not me. If anything changed, and you're willing to share this info with fans, you're very welcome to do so, it's your forum! Also, the number and type of 'suppositions" I'm making are very much in line with what quite a few fans here make, in particular Mo2468 etc. Again, the reason of me being singled out for your "warning" / criticism is unclear to me, and you're attacking the one who supported you for years.
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Re: Ayano Yamane's Finder series - under which imprint?

Postby Dokuhime » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:08 pm

Censored or not, I'll probably pick it up when it comes out.

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Looks like there's a lot of people at the YA Live Journal that feel close to what Sun does. It's difficult not to worry a little about a series like this.. It is quite graphic and noone wants to see something they love changed.
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Re: Ayano Yamane's Finder series - under which imprint?

Postby sunflower33 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:05 pm

ChibiKami wrote:If you want to know what the book will look like-well, you'll just have to pick it up and see. It's not very nice that some of you are making inflamed comments when the book isn't out yet. We have a very specific strategy with this book in mind-and we're going to give it our love.


ChibiKami, while I appreciate your licensing this title and all the hard work that you're obviously putting into it, I think it's a mistake to tell people to buy it without knowing what's in it. After BeBeautiful, this is a concern for many fans and I don't see how keeping this a secret benefits DMP. Caveat emptor is a phrase that applies for all consumers, and when a seller refuses to disclose something, it naturally makes the consumers suspicious and hesitant. You can see this in many of the discussions around the blogland today.

I'm not trying to be confrontational, just pointing out what I'm seeing today. Some people will always whine about manga. But a definitive answer would put rumors to sleep and let the rest of us who want to see this manga in English get on with being happy about it.
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